TThis summer we recorded w/ Stephen Egerton in Tulsa & w/ Chris Peirce in N.J. We plan to do more in Dec.  It also seems we'll track a week in the Mts. above Sedalia Colorado come January...We know it's been awhile but at this point we can say that one way or another & around or at the turn of the year we will start releasing a new full length with songs no one has heard, 4 to 3 seven inches worth of "hey buddies" stuff we were savin' for the full length....but aren't now.....& lastly we believe we are finally letting "closed" boom on vinyl...hobo/chicken will be next. Oh yeah!! also a split w/ the DENTS from Boston!! We do each others songs!! So....like 20 - 30 unreleased songs maybe.

....doin' some Kansas - Mo. - Tenn. - Arkansas - Oklahoma & Texas in Dec. We did hit all the corners of the country this summer but missed those places. Anyway...it's gonna be fast...10 days tops!   Then in FEB. we're back out west...

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